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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 17, 2012 22:24:35 GMT -6
This will be for Street ET/Pro no/e and Super Pro. (Street ET and PRO will run together) I copied this and this is how I want to do it: Basic Rules of the combo format for Pro & Super Pro: Racers in each class will race each other, until we are down to one finalist in that class. The Super Pro winner will run the Pro winner for the grand total winner & runner-up money! If there is an uneven amount of entries in the Super Pro or the Pro Class, a racer will get to skip a round and wait until a finalist is determined in the other group. The semifinalist is determined by what racer went the extra round when we are down to 2 left overall. If there is an even amount of cars in both classes, then there will be two semifinalists Payout will be like this: $1100 win $700 R/U $150 Semi $70 Entry Minimum 30 cars (If not 30, then 90% payout) $40 Buy Back 1st OR 2nd round If we get 40+ cars we will pay $50 for Qrts. OK Let the complaining begin!
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Post by jimmy on Jun 18, 2012 6:45:38 GMT -6
Can we do two tec cards again or enter NO-E and super pro
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 18, 2012 8:49:29 GMT -6
Can we do two tec cards again or enter NO-E and super pro Yes, I think we got that figured out lol.
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Post by Kevin Taulbee aka Captainhook on Jun 20, 2012 16:20:48 GMT -6
Which tree will it be 500 or pro tree ??
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Post by jimmy on Jun 20, 2012 17:02:38 GMT -6
500
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 20, 2012 20:16:40 GMT -6
Yeah it will be .500 sportsman tree like our regular brackets always are. Only thing I'm not sure about is when super pro races pro and how to do cross talk?
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 20, 2012 22:10:20 GMT -6
no cross talk they already have the advantage with a delay box Thats what I was thinking, thanks!
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Post by tx81 on Jun 25, 2012 17:53:27 GMT -6
I understand Slims question. If SP only runs 4 or 5 rounds compared to 6 or 7 for no-e and SP only generates 1/3 of the money. Its a one sided event.
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Post by Jon Hollis on Jun 25, 2012 18:21:15 GMT -6
Just make it an "ALL RUN EVENT" and hope the sheer number of No/E cars take out all the Super/Pro cars? ?
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 25, 2012 19:35:02 GMT -6
I'm up for what ever you guys want to do. I do understand what slim is saying as it wouldn't be to fair for a super pro car to only have to go one or two rounds to be in the final where a no/e car would have to go 6 or 7.
Hard question to answer there, guess we will decide on the day of the event at drivers meeting....that should be fun!
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Post by tx81 on Jun 25, 2012 20:29:20 GMT -6
$700 for the runner-up is a pretty good No-E payout. if the car count is one sided then pay semis good, and maybe Qtrs, only pay super-pro semi.
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 25, 2012 21:55:19 GMT -6
$700 for the runner-up is a pretty good No-E payout. if the car count is one sided then pay semis good, and maybe Qtrs, only pay super-pro semi. This is one reason why I tried to make Winner and Runner up close in payout so it would be a little more fair for both winners (in each class). Either way, one No/e car and one super pro car will get paid fairly well no matter how many rounds they have to go.
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Post by gordonl on Jun 26, 2012 11:11:48 GMT -6
Why does this only matter here and no where else. And only to certian people? If you think super pro has a advantage then enter super pro and take the "advantage" or just stay home and quit crying and bringing everyone else down.
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Post by sprado on Jun 26, 2012 17:24:09 GMT -6
Why does this only matter here and no where else. And only to certian people? If you think super pro has a advantage then enter super pro and take the "advantage" or just stay home and quit crying and bringing everyone else down. I agree!
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 27, 2012 8:58:28 GMT -6
Im really thinking about staying home that day Gordon! Lol
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Post by robinphelps on Jun 27, 2012 16:48:47 GMT -6
Your right randall about sp only going a few rounds n no e having to go more. That's where they have an advantage. Simple numbers. 10 sp cars and 35 no e cars hmmm how many more rounds do the no e guys have to go?? Why is this a combo race? What is the benefit?
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Post by robinphelps on Jun 27, 2012 18:39:12 GMT -6
I believe I had a good question and was actually going to come down this weekend but you know with the pissy attitudes I think I'll stay home or head to Wichita where when you ask them a question they actually answer! Way to go in trying to get more cars. Thanks for the hospitality! And I don't have a problem with racing sp cars I have a problem with that class only going 2 or 3 rounds and no having to go 6 or 7 or more rounds to race for the same money. That was my question? No grip just question
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Post by Jon Hollis on Jun 27, 2012 19:33:28 GMT -6
Where'd I miss the "pissy attitudes" at? GEESH I need to stay on the internet more. I swear there were more posts on this thread earlier. Now I'm wondering what else I've missed.
My question is.. Why are some people so worried about the payout? I thought we raced for FUN and the payout was just icing on the cake.. When money is more important it takes the fun out of it. IMO. I can't believe the money I've spent and still have to spend just so I can be a first round duck whenever I get to race again. I WISH my car was running right now. I'd enter every class at this race and have FUN doing it!!
I just hope Joe can keep the track going long enough for me to make there and race..
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Post by tx81 on Jun 27, 2012 20:06:08 GMT -6
I think my car is fixed, so I will be there!
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Post by robinphelps on Jun 27, 2012 20:16:51 GMT -6
Wow I guess that's cool. Yes you missed my question and a few other racers are saying the same thing. I didn't say a word about the money I just asked about the fairness of one class going so few rounds n the other having to go twice as many . Sorry you thought that was attitude. But if that's all it takes to get asked not to come ok. Sorry I hurt your feeling. Best of luck to you!
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 27, 2012 20:37:34 GMT -6
Its funny, everyone who WAS coming ALWAYS has 1000 people with them! I have heard that so many times!! I'm glad C'ville is still going good too! I love that track, infact I will probably race there next year! And trust me, I been to C'ville enough to know Wayne has to put up with plenty attitude from people who think they are somebody! Robin, I thought you meant you had a question and I missed it, but I guess you were talking about Slims question?? I just talked to him on the phone and me and him already discussed what he asked! I missed his posts, he just now told me he deleted them! So I DID answer his question, in fact I agreed with him that it wasn't fair that a super pro car may only have to go a few rounds but a NO/E car may go many rounds.....BUT thats just the way it is. I can't fix it....I can cancel the race I guess...but I'm not going too! If people show up great! If people that want to give me a hard time don't show up GREAT! Either way, I'm a happy camper! Cant you tell!
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Post by tx81 on Jun 27, 2012 21:06:07 GMT -6
Robin was referring to a comment by Jimmy (which is now gone). Robin is one of my racing partners and I have been talking to her about coming back to Sallisaw. I hope this can be resolved and a fresh start between her and the new ownership.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 27, 2012 21:15:55 GMT -6
Your right Randal I did make a comment all I was saying was that I didn't see the big deal about going a few more rounds than maybe the super pro guys and was tired of all the back and forth and pissing and moaning over something that is supposed to be fun it is rediculous and am tired of it don't know why when a race like this is put together it is always the people from out of town griping and not the regulars that's all I said...
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Post by robinphelps on Jun 27, 2012 21:19:17 GMT -6
Yes Randall I was kinda excited to come down n check out the track, you said it was really being prepped well. I supported that track from day one with the Woods family. Life is too short to get so upset, maybe someday Randall untill then good bring the money home again! Proud of u brother!
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Post by tx81 on Jun 27, 2012 21:20:42 GMT -6
Thanks Jimmy, I hope this clears it up for Joe.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 27, 2012 21:23:03 GMT -6
No problem
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 27, 2012 21:34:01 GMT -6
Robin was referring to a comment by Jimmy (which is now gone). Robin is one of my racing partners and I have been talking to her about coming back to Sallisaw. I hope this can be resolved and a fresh start between her and the new ownership. I haven't been able to get on here as much because I've been very busy. I guess I missed everything before It got deleted. I thought a lot of it was directed at me and I was like "what did I do" lol, I haven't even been on here! I will apologize for my bad attitude, I am human and I just got on here in a bad mood. LOL Everyone is welcome to come to the track, no hard feelings on my side. Oilfield trash, I know what passive aggressive is...... Also, I don't know if you have noticed or not, but my heads up nights have been very successful compared to years past.....and its because my FRIENDS have supported me. Don't hate me because you can't get past first round! Anyway, I wish you LUCK wherever you decide to race.
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Post by Kevin Taulbee aka Captainhook on Jun 27, 2012 21:46:21 GMT -6
I be there sat . I ain't scared no super pro LOL IM not one of them but there are some pretty good NO-E drivers at OUTLAW . You all have to get by them before you even get a shot at super pro .
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Post by Joe Mumma on Jun 27, 2012 22:18:43 GMT -6
Man ....are you for real? What does that mean? We come to your track when you first open up to SUPPORT you and help you out with car count...Never said we have the fastest car around...far from it...we run 5.50 Index with it....LOL We came out there for fun and now you trash us? Came out there and won the 7.0 Index twice....to help add to your car count and SUPPORT you and you trash us?...really? If that makes you feel like a big man in your mind...Trash on then. Kind of the same thing you are doing with other racers that are asking questions concerning the races you are putting on....Seems like no one there knows what they are doing...so yes...the racers have questions....and you trash them for asking? Like I said...Good luck with what you got going on....Looks like you need it. So continue with the bashing....Shows a class act from a track owner. Hope all your FRIENDS keep coming out...You will need them. I won't post anymore...so have at it. Sheesh your sensitive, I was JOKING! LOL (that's what the smiley faces were for..JOKES) I'm not trashing you at all! Racing should be for fun! I don't win every race I enter either, and I don't claim to be anybody! I appreciate your support, I'm sure I told you that when you came. This is the main reason tracks don't have forums, but I thought I would give it a try. I think everyone needs to put down the key board for the night! LOL I know I am.
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Post by robinphelps on Jun 28, 2012 6:50:36 GMT -6
apoligies accepted all around and im sorry if i came off with some "attitude" everybody that knows me knows I ask tons of questions. lol maybe its the girl thing. lol boys don't even go there cause you know i can spank your butt on any given day!! I have heard nothing but good things about the Sallisaw track and Dennis and I have really wanted to take a trip down. We do have to go to Wichita to see his mom sometime this weekend so if we can fit Sallisaw in we will sure try. If not we will be down sometime this summer. Have a safe, profitable, Fun, Combo race and Joe thank you for stepping up and running the track.
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